Banking vs. Operating
Posted by Jeff Lu on March 11, 2010
So it’s been 8 months since I left the world of investment banking for the world of operating a real business. I now manage the Affiliate business development team for HealthCare.com. We run a PPC ad network for health and life insurance advertisers. I do miss the world of finance from time to time, but 99% of the time, working at a startup has been so much more fun and rewarding for me. Here are some of the difference:
Having a Scoreboard
As an analyst, I used to find out how well I was doing my job during reviews, which occurred only twice a year. I would receive a score a score (1-3 or 1-5, I forget) on a number of key skillsets/characteristics. This would be backed up by some anecdotal data points (both good and bad) from the senior bankers. As you might imagine, there’s a lot of subjectivity when it comes to your review and imbetween reviews, the perception of your performance is not always transparent.
As a manager of a division, I have a daily scoreboard. I know how much money we are making the company every hour, day, week and month. We have monthly revenue goals to hit. Beyond those metrics, we have other supporting metrics to measure such as how many leads we are contacting, how many opportunities are we converting, etc. There is rarely any doubt regarding how well we are performing and it’s not subjective. Every member of the team has their own business development style and the only thing that matters is performance.
When I first started, our division’s P&L was in the red and having this daily scoreboard put tremendous pressure on me. Banking was a lot of pressure in that you had a lot to get done sometimes and felt like there weren’t enough hours in the day to get it done. The pressure I felt at HC.com was different. I felt like we had to perform and the whole company was depending on it. It was a hard adjustment but now that we are killing it, it’s exhilarating and an hourly, daily, monthly source or pride.
Becoming a Ninja (vs. Being a Robot)
To be a good investment banking analyst, one needs to become very good at following directions and perfect a few tasks/projects that you will have to perform thousands of times during the program. When you start, there are other analysts, a year senior to you, who can show you the ropes and you just follow their model for success.
When I started here, there was no model for success. Howard Yeh, then VP of Corporate Development was promptly promoted to COO and my principle responsibility was to take over the responsibility of recruiting new affiliates and managing other business development team members. Howard had some ideas on what might work but he didn’t have a proven model yet either. We worked as a team to come up with new ad products that would enable us to partner with different affiliates in various capacities. It was and still continues to be a struggle at times but the freedom and responsibility can be hugely rewarding.
The reason why I used the word “ninja” to describe my role is because I’ve heard it used a lot among startup communities when people talk about the type of people they want to hire or work with. I think it’s relevant for our team because we were giving a mission to accomplish: to hit certain revenue goals. We were given the tools/weapons to accomplish this but we weren’t told which ones to use or how to go about accomplishing our mission. It took a lot phone calls, emails and product iterations to get to our current growth profile. Being a ninja means figuring out a way to get results.
Hiring and Working with Ninjas
Hiring and managing other people was something I was least prepared to do when entering this job and it’s still a skill set with which I struggle. When I was an analyst, I was the bottom of the totem pole. The only other people I had the opportunity to manage were analysts junior to me, who I could pass on the work I didn’t want to do.
When I first started at HC.com, I still had an analyst mentality. I wanted to run half a dozen weekly reports that would analyze the affiliates we signed, the affiliates we had to implement, the delta in our revenues by affiliates, what the reason for this delta was, etc. This took up half of my day every Friday. I also wanted to review emails that the other business development managers were sending, and periodically be on calls with them. Basically, I was spending a lot of time micro-managing and not trusting the people I was working with, but sometimes it was necessary to make sure we were performing.
We recently moved a colleague from the SEO department to my department and I’ve realized the importance of hiring the right people. She reminds me of Mark Pincus’ interview with the NYTimes, where Mark challenges each of employees to be a CEO of something. Julia has really taken the initiative to learn as much as she can about how to become an effective recruiter of affiliates and has really become our CEO of recruiting medicare and life insurance affiliates. I’m really proud of the work she’s done for us and it will turn into a lot of revenue for us very soon. Her contribution moves beyond just making money for us; the fact that I don’t have to micro-manage her makes my life easier.
Not having other ninjas working for you takes time away from tasks that you should be focused on. It diminishes your ability to be the CEO of your responsibilities.
Before moving on, I wanted to share something that I’ve learned from Julia. Being fearless and aggressive when pursuing affiliates. Here are some highlighted examples of some successful emails (emails that elicit positive responses) she’s sent that I would have never sent:
1.) Subj: I think I haven’t heard from you on this..
Email Copy: Hi, just a quick follow-up to see if you received my email last week, I want to make sure it didn’t end up in your junk/spam folder.
Responses vary =) from “your email got into spam” to “I was on a vacation and just got back to office”, etc.
2.) Subj.: do you own this domain?
Email Copy: Hi Jason, do you still own this domain – domain name?
They usually respond very quickly, confirming that they own it. And I try to respond immediately till they are warm.
3) Subj.: did you implement the codes?
Works very well with the guys who sign and do not implement immediately.
4) Killer Email: Use with caution
Hi ____,
I don’t want to be annoying, I called and emailed several times to discuss the potential partnership, are you too busy to respond or simply not interested?
If for some reason you don’t think we are a good fit for you, are you okay with telling us No?
I would be most grateful if you would say NO as early as possible so we are not wasting each others time =)
Thanks,
Julia
Limited Resources
“Resources” can refer to a lot of things when talking about business. It could refer to capital, the available time of people who work for you, your own available time. For the purposes of this section, when talking about “resources” I’m referring to time.
As an investment banking analyst, you are the resource and you’re a near limitless resource. All possible financial models, analysis, presentations, graphs, charts, etc. are deemed necessary to win and service the client. If the resource hits a “limit” as in, there’s not 25 hrs in the day, your associate (1 level above analyst) who is staffed on the deal will be forced to help out. Sometimes, investment banking felt like a series of sprints and with each spring, a late night or an all-nighter.
Going from being the resource to having resources has been a nice change, however there has been a culture adjustment. I had to learn that not everything that we could do to sign and service an affiliate was necessary. I used to bend over backwards to sign and keep every affiliate but I eventually learned a valuable lesson that I’ve read from Steve Blank‘s blog and book before. The majority of the revenue (for us probably 80%) will come from a small percentage of your customers (~10 affiliates). Small affiliates have been just as hard and time consuming to sign but they are usually more of a pain in the ass to service. I now spend 90% of my energy and resources on a larger opportunities who can really move the needle for us.
Having limited resources has helped me prioritize tasks against the revenue potential. It’s helped our team stay focused on opportunities that will help us get to our goals. It has even helped us prioritize our internal development queue as we invest in our platform.


